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 Revolution aborted ??

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Posted on 04-24-06 5:03 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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This time around, people had unmistakably wanted a change. And they were this much close to that change. But the politicians who felt more secure in the status quo than in a change succeeded to abort it, divert it.

Now the politicians are going to pretend working hard to bring some change and they will be able to confuse people.

The revolution is aborted for now.

If it does not resurrect by coming Saturday, it's gone.

If it's gone, then everybody won.

King won with his crown and invisible power retained

Politicians won with getting what they always wanted

The Maoists won by proving that revolution, at least in Nepal, will come only from the barrel of gun, it will not come from anything else.

Congratulations to the victorious all !

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Posted on 04-25-06 6:36 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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i_f jyu,
i think we will have to agree to disagree on what constitutes autocracy

for me, trying to hang on to a kursi by political machinations is corruption, killing 14 people to prove that you are the master and commander is autocracy. i guess you have a different viewpoint. but that is your perogative, my worldview dosent allow me to cut off your communications, or for that matter, to imprison you for your thoughts

no one doubts the power-hunger of the current politicos
but as of this moment the only way they can stay in power for the long haul is if the majority of their short-term decisions are the right decisions. if you agree that their utilization of the mass movement was a 'brilliant tactic', you cannot go and accuse them of extreme stupidity in the same breath

as for the maoists, what was the main thrust of their hatred? where was the finger pointed? the feudal monarchy and its attendant evils. remove that and you remove their most potent recruitement tool.

and i happen to agree with them on this one. id rather that 10,000 kids got a high school education than one bloodline buy new bullet-proof jaguars every year. but then, if you choose not to free yourself of this mental slavery, that is your perogative. my worldview allows me to fart in your general direction, but it does not allow me to lob cannisters of teargas

and back to the maoists. i am of the opinion that the top echelon leadership comprises of enough hard-nosed realists who recognize that a communist nepal is untenable to india and thus has no chance of long-term survival. their best hope of a socialist nepal lies with the political mainstream, not outside of it. they may huff and puff for the moment, but they have to placate their own cadre that they arent abandoning the revolution.

i think you are right in assesing that the maoist problem will not 'be solved anytime soon'. however, i think we have differing ideas on how this situation will play out.

a) the monarchy is not abolished, retains its 1990 powers. in this case, the conflict continues unabated. therefore,in insisting that the king is all-benevolent, sir, it is royalists like yourselves who pose a danger to the nation. you are so hung up on the idea of the royalty defining the country that you miss the forest for the trees. im not blaming you for the maoist violence of yesterday, but i might blame you for the continued maoist violence of tomorrow

b) the monarchy is reduced to an absolute ceremonial role
there will be factions within the cadre that cannot accept this on ideological grounds and will rebel, even if some factions accept it. the size of the split i cannot pretend to even gauge. however, this will mean continued bloodshed. i dont know about you sir, but id rather a white elephant was put out to pasture than any more nepali lives lost. again, im not blaming you for the crimes that the maoists commit, but surely you must recognize that your stubborness leads to their hardening, and altho you do not pull the trigger you do provide them the ideological gunpowder.
parallel to this, the army gains new legitimacy in the fight against the rebels, which opens up another avenue for some army general to declare martial law or throw his weight behind the monarchy, in which case we are back to square one

c) now imagine a republic
goint back to my original point, who can the maoists now point fingers at?
you say 'the bourgoise government'.
i say your clutching at straws to justify your position.
my worldview allows me to point out to you are wrong, it dosent allow me to shoot you
but such considerations never stopped your divine monarch, long may he live

i_f jyu, come the next elections, join me and together we will vote deuba and girija out of office. maybe paras can run for president. why dont you vote for him?
 
Posted on 04-25-06 6:54 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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अहिलेको आन्दोलनले राजालाइ जनतमा कति शक्ती रहेछ भन्ने वास्तबिकताको बोध गराएको छ । राजाले अबबाट हरेक कदम चाल्दा बहूत् होशीयार भयेर चाल्नपर्ने बाध्यता को सिर्जना भएको छ - जुन यो आन्दोलनको सफलता हो। सास फेर्दा समेत राजाले बिचार पुर्याउन पर्ने छ -- यो राजाले चर्को चर्को सास् फेर्यो, अब देश निकाला!!

न्यायमूर्ती हरुले पनि अब "राजाको जुङ्गा चले कुरा बुझे" भनेर पूच्छर हल्लाउने परिपटीमा पूर्णबिराम आउने सन्केत देखिएको छ। सेना र प्रहरी का नीकायहरुमा पनि राजाको शक्तिको सीमाको बारेमा राम्रैसंग दीशाबोध हुने स्थितिको सिर्जना भएको छ।
 
Posted on 04-25-06 7:02 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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अब आयो हाम्रा नेता हरुको कुरा।

यीनीहरुले पनि राम्ररी बुझ्नै पर्ने हो, सत्तामा पुगेपछि पनि उन्माद माथि नियन्त्रण राख्नु पर्दो रहेछ। जनताप्रति वफादार नहुंदा कस्तो स्थिति आइपर्दो रहेछ -- "कुर्ची पाइहाले, अब घूस र कमिशन राम्रै संग हजम गर्नु पर्छ, हिजो पन्चहरुले गरे, अब हाम्रै पालो त हो!" भन्ने मानिसकता बाट टाढानै नरहेको खण्डमा जनता नाम गरेका महाशक्ति ले कसरि बदला लिने रहेछन्।

यी कारण हरुले गर्दा, उपलब्धि सानो भयो भनेर मन छोटो गर्नु भन्दा प्राप्त उपलब्धिलाइ राम्ररि परिचालन गर्नु ठीक होला जस्तो लाग्दछ।

अस्तु।
 
Posted on 04-25-06 8:30 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 04-25-06 8:07 AM Reply | Notify Admin
I totally agrre with the growing sentiment that GP Koirala should not be the next prime minister. I have raised this issue before, Giija is somewhat responsible for bringing the country today in a big mess. We all want public apology from him. When late king Birendra was murdered, as a prime minister of the country, Girija could not come out publicly and assured people that as a prime minister, he would probe the incident and bring the truth out to the people. If he had done so, monarchy would have ended then but no, he acted like a chicken and shut his mouth. He has not shared with people regarding what he knows about the royal massacre. I hope, before he dies he will spill the beans.

Nepali congress, so called democratic party in the country doen not have democracy in the party. Otherwise, 85 year Koirala woud not be our prime minister again. But let's give Girija a benefit of the doubt. He was the one who initited 12 point agreeent with the Maoist when no one could break the ice. May be, he feels bad for what he did and did not do in the past, and corrects his mistakes once and for all and lead the country towards constituent assembly, and get rid of monarchy ultimately. Otherwise, People were not afraid of the despot King, Girija also will have to pay for his share of mistakes. I hope he can die in peace with pride.


Jai NEPAL Let's hope for the best for now.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 8:33 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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मेरो आफ्नो बिचार कहाँ छ भन्ने कुरालाई पर राखेर भन्नु पर्दा, नेपेजीले पनि खुट्टा कमाएको देखेर अलि नमज्जा लाग्यो।

राजाले "लौ आजबाट गणतन्त्र घोषणा गरी लागु गरिबक्सेका छौँ।" भनेर घोषना गर्ला र?
अब अर्को ९औँ(?) शाही सम्बोधन, जुन माओबादीको दबाबमा पर्खिएको छ। त्यो त ढिलो चाँडो हुने नै भो।
यसमा "जनचाहना अनुरुप सम्बिधानको सम्सोधन या नयाँ सम्बिधानको निर्माणको अभिभारा समेत अब गठन हुने माओबादी राजनैतिक शक्तहरु समेत सम्मिलित अन्तरिम मन्त्री परिषदमा निहित हुनेछ र यसले राजकीय सत्ताको अधिकारको समेत पुनर्बिचार गर्न सक्नेछ।" सम्म भन्ला कि।

शब्द शब्दमा बहस हुने बेला पो आए जस्तो छ।

०४६ मा "हिन्दु अधिराज्य"(/हिन्दू, अधिराज्य) मा बिचमा कमा राख्ने कि नराख्ने भन्ने बिबाद प-या जस्तो।

सेरेमोनियल मोनार्कीमा सेफ लेन्डिगँ गर्न खोज्या भए पनि आजको बाटो नै सजिलो देख्या होला कि भन्छु।

(आँफु त अझै सेरेमोनियल मोनार्कीमा हो केरे। जति लतारे नि।)
 
Posted on 04-25-06 4:48 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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IF-jee,

Thanks for stopping by and sharing your views. As you know I always reciprocate decency.

Yes, the "revolution" was aborted from an inch of it's birth. However, it still has two more chances, one is less likely and the other is with very high likelihood.

Less likely, or near impossible, is some sensible strategic decisions by the Maoists. If they give up their brand name and convert themselves into a socialist party with democratic republic as the final and resting cause, they can lead and complete the revolution without much difficulty.

Then a realistic chance is CA. If the pro-republic nostalgia of Jana-andolan can be re-created, it can write off monarchy.

If monarchy survives, then it will be there for good.

In any case, monarchy lost a lot. The most important of all is it's dignity. Gyanendra's misadventure's cost.

But the group that lost everything is the one who supported and co-operated with King's regime. Prakash Koirala, RK Mainali included.

However, I agree with your points about our political leaders.

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दादाजी,

मैले भनेनि अब 'सम्विधान सभा' अर्को वास्तविक मौका हो गणतन्त्रवादीहरुको लागि । त्यसैले अब त्यसैको प्रतिक्षामा गोडा तँगार्दै छु ।

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LCDN,

Similar views here.

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rBral-jee,

बोधका लागि हाम्रो यस दशकको कुनै पनि दिन खालि थिएन, तर भएन । त्यसैले बोधमा मेरो त्यति आस्था छैन । आस्था छ भने जनचापमा छ मलाई । तर निकै ठूलो चाप चाहिने रहेछ, काम हुन । यसपालीको विराट जनचापको छायाँ जबसम्म रहन्छ, तबसम्म केहि हुनसक्छ । त्यो हराएको दिनपछि business as usual हुनेछ । त्यसैले यो रहदै सब तारतम्मे मिलाउन हतार गर्नुपर्छ ।

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clairvoyant,

Anything good that happened and will happen will not be DUE to Koirala, it will be DESPITE OF Koirala.

So, Koirala does not need our defense.


Nepe
 
Posted on 04-25-06 4:49 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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राजनितिको खेल्
नेता को देखाउने मेल्
जनतको रगत् को भेल्
पार्टिहरुको सन्सद् भवन् मा ठेलमठेल्

अब सुरु हुन्छ जाल् झेल्
लाउनेछन् जुनियर् नेत सेनियरहरुलाइ तेल्
कुरा हुनेचान् ठुलाठुला, ल्याउने काठ्मान्डौमा रेल्
अनि भित्र्याउने उपत्यकमा फेरि मेलम्चिको भेल्

उम्किनेछन् अपराधिहरु खालि हुनेचन् जेल्
फेरि सुरु हुनेछ रजनिति सदाझै आयल् निगमको तेल्
पार्टि नेताहरुमा शुरु हुन्छ पेलमपेल्
शुरु हुन्छ षडयन्त्र कसरि गराउने सरकारलाइ फेल्

इतिहाश् हुनेछ आजको यो जनतको मेल्
फेरि उदाउनेछ मुलुकमा बिद्रोह, राजनितिको खेल्
राजनितिको खेल्
नेता को मेल्
जनतको रगत् को भेल्
पार्टिहरुको सन्सद् भवन्मा ठेलमठेल्
 



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