swaati thapa Posted on 12-13-04 6:39 AM Reply
सिक्टामा फेरि अवरोधलगानी नगर्न युरोपेली संघलाई भारतको दबाब
विकास थापा
काठमाडौं, मंसिर २७ - भारतले मध्य पश्चिमको बृहत् सिूचाइ आयोजना सिक्टामा लगानी नगर्न दाता युरोपेली संघ र्-इयू) लाई दबाब दिएको छ ।पटक-पटकको भारतीय अवरोधका कारण तीन दशकदेखि अलपत्र पर्दै आएको सिक्टामा ३ अर्ब ६९ करोड रुपैयाू लगानी गर्न संघ सहमत भएपछि यस्तो दबाब आएको हो ।परराष्ट्र मन्त्रालय स्रोतका अनुसार संघको युरोपेली कमिटीले बेल्जियमको ब्रसेल्सस्थित शाही नेपाली दूतावासलाई भारतीय दबाबबारे हालै जानकारी दिएको छ । त्यसको जानकारी परराष्ट्र र जलस्रोत मन्त्रालय हुूदै सिूचाइ विभाग पुगेको छ ।
स्रोत अनुसार ब्रसेल्समा 'इन्डिया कमिसन मिटिङ' मा भारतका तर्फबाट सिक्टाको मुद्दा उठेको थियो । यसअघि संघको उक्त कमिटीले सिक्टामा सहयोग उपलब्ध गराउनेबारे भारतीय चासो रहेकामा ध्यानाकर्षा गराएको थियो ।संघले आयोजना अगाडि बढाउन भारतसूग तटीय मुद्दाबारे प्राविधिक छलफल गर्न नेपाललाई भनेको छ । नेपाली अधिकारीले सहयोगबारे भारतसूग कुनै सहमति लिनुनपर्ने कुरा औचित्य संघमा राखेको स्रोतले बतायो ।
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swaati thapa Posted on 12-13-04 6:43 AM Reply
प्रतिहेक्टर झन्डै १६ हजार रुपैयाू थप आय वृद्धि हुने सिक्टामा अर्काे लगानीकर्ता साउदी विकास कोषलाई पनि भारतले यस्तै दबाब दिएको थियो । उक्त दबाबलगत्तै कोषले केही महिनाअघि सरकारलाई पत्र लेखेर 'छिमेकीको सहयोग जुटाउन' आग्रह गरेको थियो । कोषले ५ करोड ६० लाख रियाद -१एक अर्ब ८० लाख रुपैयाू) उपलब्ध गराउने वचनसहितको पत्र सरकारलाई दिएको थियो ।अघिल्लो वर्षो अक्टोबरमा साउदी कोष, संघ र सरकारका अधिकारीबीच संयुक्त बैठक भएको थियो । सबै दातृ संस्थाका साथै कुवेत फन्ड फर इकोनोमिक डेभलपमेन्टले पनि आयोजना कार्यान्वयनमा आंशिक स्रोत उपलब्ध गराउने वचन दिएको थियो ।
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swaati thapa Posted on 12-13-04 6:44 AM Reply
सिक्टामा आप\mनो चासो स्वीकार गर्दै भारतीय दूतावासका प्रथम सचिव जावेद असरफले दुवै देशलाई फाइदा हुने 'विकल्प' खोजिनर्ुपर्ने बताउनुभयो । उहाूले नेपालले सिक्टा बनाएमा त्यसको सीधा असर उत्तरप्रदेशका आप\mना करोडौं जनतामा पर्ने बताउनुभयो । असरफले मध्यपश्चिमका लागि सिक्टाको अपरिहार्यता स्वीकार गर्दै समस्या समाधानका लागि दाङको भालुबाङमा जलाशययुक्त आयोजना बनाउनर्ुपर्ने भारतको अडान रहेको बताउनुभयो ।भारतले सिक्टाको एकतर्फी निर्माणबाट सरयु क्यानललगायत उत्तरौटा र डुमानियाका नहर प्रभावित हुने दाबी गरेको छ । सुख्खायाममा भारतीय प्रणाली सञ्चालनमा पानी पर्याप्त नहुने तर्क राख्दै भारतले भालुबाङमा प्रस्तावित जलाशययुक्त बाूध र सिक्टा कार्यान्वयन एकैसाथ निर्माण गर्नर्ुपर्ने प्रस्ताव राखेको असरफले बताउनुभयो ।
भारतको उक्त तर्क प्रतिवाद गर्दै नेपालले सिक्टा कार्यान्वयन भए राप्ती नदीको पानी बहावमा कुनै असर नपर्ने बताएका छन् ।
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swaati thapa Posted on 12-13-04 6:52 AM Reply
he above news shows that, we also need to form some kinda interest group which will lobby for us. its hopeless to expect from a goverment regarding this. i have no hope from goverment cuz there are ppl in power who says india bhaneko hamro "THULDAI". Its ppl like us NRN who have to form that to help nepal. As everybody who are in US knows how a caucas works. Need inituataion from some intellect here in Sajha. Its been well known fact in between south asian countries how india have a big hand in lingering procees of getting developmental help packages from a donar. For example u can see what happened to Bangladesh while they were supposed to get assistance for their flood programme. When will our Netaas will understand that any 2 country cannot be friend but can only be allied just to get some goal cuz every country have her rights to see her interest. I am not mad at indians but its us who have to look our interest.Hope this will bring some light in our "Neta" like GPK.
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john_s Posted on 12-13-04 2:20 PM Reply
ets find a suitable name for our movment first ?
" Maajhi le saalah garda ,garda 9 gaoon dubyoo "
Maajhi = fisherman
Saalah = discussion
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john_s Posted on 12-13-04 2:21 PM Reply
am with U / desh bachaau karyakraam ma..
jai hind !!
:-)
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foe_4_mysty Posted on 12-13-04 2:53 PM Reply
hoti Muj!
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sense Posted on 12-13-04 3:40 PM Reply
o foul words Foe.....bring no personal stuff if u want to retain ur intelectual dignity which rest of sajha memebers including me respect.
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foe_4_mysty Posted on 12-13-04 8:58 PM Reply
orry sense!
but Mr Bheda aka subba urrf John s***er i ain't sorry for ya!
wtf u mean? >" Maajhi le saalah garda ,garda 9 gaoon dubyoo " <
Jai hind! my a$$!
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swaati thapa Posted on 12-13-04 10:04 PM Reply
hanyawaad hajoor justo tapartuiyaan maanche(joh s) ko sallah sunera mann ananda le harsha wibhor bhako chu. yestai kriya pratikriya jaari raknu huncha bhanne aasha rakheko chu maile hajoor bata.
BTW namare baanche kaala le saanche ra nepali le malai permission(nepali ma lekhna aayena) diyechan bhane definitely u are seeing a future leader of nepal in me. The only problem is i am nepali but not nepali citizen thats all. Hajoor ko jai hind sanga kasari negotiation garnu parcha bhanne malai taha cha. Ani hajoor pani tyahi jai hind ko dhappa hajoor le aafno gaand ma khandai hunuhunhca ke ko khan khan ho bhane.
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moneyminded Posted on 12-13-04 10:29 PM Reply
o radi....john ...haad bhayo haad bhayo...ma jasto maache jasko temper chaina ...rish uthisakyo....Oh john gothalo....sun mu..ji...Tere guff dherai bhayo...aba mero kura sun.
Remeber one thing .dont even think about india taking nepal. First, as long as we have china border..fu...k indian and indians....The first move u will make in ..second move china will get in. Did u forget the chinese invaison in india..? they almost reach kalimpong. They kick your ass only thing left for you was....hindi song" ghar chlae ham fida janu taan sathiya". Jaba sama sarir maa ek ek ragat ko thopa cha ne mu..ji....hami harek nepali ko choro atleast 3 jana dhoti lai marera marne chau...
Ta jasto dhoti le mero des taa laaglas tara ...yeti chati pitera bhanchu..maa pani shiva kc ko choro ho...bujis...rastra ko lagi jaan dinchu...hk chodera nepal aanchu...yedi tero sipahi mero simana bhitra khuta matra holos..
desh ta laglass.......tara tero ....desh hamro desh maa sampurna nepai ko balidan dekhne chaa.....hami nepali ko naam mitai dincham tara tero bharat ko geda pani huna din nam..bujis bheda..
Radi....kassam taile yo kura mero mukh maa bhane ko bhaye meri aama shamrila kc ko kasam talai tehi kaatdin thiya
jai bhadrakali
jai nepali
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moneyminded Posted on 12-13-04 10:43 PM Reply
ets talk about darjeeling...jai hind re....what the hell on fu..kig earth makes u think u r still indian? You guys are nothing pendulum " na ta nepali na ta indian". You guys are living in darjeeling district as second citizen. Tero bharat le ke....ahile saama darjeeling ko water problem solve gareko cha. Temi haru ajhai pani harek morning pani ko laagi muj line laagnu parcha. Has ever calcutta looked as you part of india...my answer is my ass. what about the unemployement in darjeeling district. Timi haru khali umemplyoment form bharyo ....12 barsa waiting garyo still no job. Ta jasto handy boy " khalasi" le garero kuro ra kasiram ko ....kuni ke gati bhaneko tehi ho. Pahila afno tham ko samasya solve gaar ani hamro..............muj...afu taa mahadev utano taang kasle de la bar...
Jai nepal
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moneyminded Posted on 12-13-04 10:44 PM Reply
alai jyoti basu le deko useneko chamal ko bhat pani naapachla mero kura sunera...tesaile chup layera bas
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Kalekrishna Posted on 12-13-04 11:38 PM Reply
ool down, MM, ris le afailai nokshan, but appreciate your patriotic feeling.
Yes, pressure group is indeed inevitable in contemporarry socio-political scenarion. Last time in Brussells, I was raising the same question to few Nepali students whom I meet there. There is no such strong Nepali presence, in key place of the world where decisions on Nepali affairs are manipulated by vulturish attitude of self interested groups both in corporate worlds and bullying nations.
Sikta, problem is just the begining of the wider conflict, with regards to Nepalese bountiful water resources to quence the thirst of Indian interest. Wait for the conflict with the greater river linking project of Nepal, that is trampling the interest of both Nepal and Bangladesh. Here Indian diplomacy should be to take the two nations into confidence (not by bribery, trickery, blackmailing and threats), safeguard their interest also while pursuing its own. Well, there is enough of the water for all, just look at the excess in monsoon season and the scarcity, it is just a matter of sustainable harvest. Moreover, the nations downstream should wake up and assist Nepal in its eco-conservation efforts in the highlands of Nepal for their own interest, and of course to assist Nepal's struggle to increase productivity.
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Kalekrishna Posted on 12-13-04 11:40 PM Reply
ith the greater river linking project of Nepal,
Sorry, should read India and not Nepal
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john_s Posted on 12-14-04 12:10 AM Reply
ie MM bro na haasau na yaar
Timi lai Darjeeling sanga kina yesto LerG ?
Nepali Haru ko tulana ma ta feri pani darjeeling ko keta haru le dheerai matra ma tarakki gareka chan,Jasto nepal mai herau ta Darjeeling ko koi teacher cha bhani thya nepali le thau paudaina..ani nepali haru ko halat herau ta Darjeeling ma ? sabbai bhari bokne haru nepali matrai cha MM "dai " :-)
as I have already said in one of my thread theres notthing to compare between darjeeling & nepal
Addict bhanda addict last begreko keta darjeeling mai cha ma manchu,ani sapreko haru ko bare ma K ni ? nepal ma gayera dhoom machaune haru pani ta darjeeling kai chan
nepal ko top band, Top singer,ramro, ramro write, actor,actress tini haru ko bare ma K ni ? (Ahile nepali haru le nai nepali hoina bhanera India ghusna lageko dekhdainau ??jasto timroo su prashidha gayak Udit narayan jha jyuuu )
Timi le Darjeeling yoo Darjeeling tyo ta bhanchau tara tehai Darjeeling ko haru le nepal ma gayeraa timi haru kai touko ma teekna lage sake timroo aankha ajjai Bhuie tira ??
Aankha kholo mohan pyareeeee.....
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john_s Posted on 12-14-04 12:25 AM Reply
akharii choto ma bhanchu hai..I AM PROUDE TO BE AN INDIAN ( if you count me as an indian )
And I am proude that my dad gave 18 years of his life for INDIAN ARMY,So that I can proudellyyy say ........Jai Hind !!
and one thing india le katti nepali haru lai paleko cha thai hola?? for examples
delhi ma sabbai BAHADUR*KANCHA*DAI* GORKHA etc,etc shame on you still ur blaming india...
If I am not wrong 35 to 55% of nepali pouplation are surviving on INDIAS ...PAISAI
See I didnt like sayin such things about nepal but ur pusshin me dear...
sorrryyyyyyyyyy...
If you have notthin nice to say about others, plzz dontsay bad either....
cause each nation and each nationalitys have their own pride ....Peace \/......
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Kalekrishna Posted on 12-14-04 12:25 AM Reply
ohn-s, I doubt your faith, where you get easily annoyed (evidence from your inability to ignore and laugh off), at the same time you tend to be divisive on faith basis, at other times you tend to preach to attain salvation. I have no grudge against you, nor have comments on your right to express your feelings, but atleast respect the feelings of others. This thread mean something for a nation and community loving person, but you come in and provoke retaliation, when confronted, you tend to prove your superiority. Leave one of it, come to the field and talk like one of us, or pursue your spritual role of enlightening others albeit with self example.
Darj, as it is we consider it a part of greater Nepal, and hence brain drain or tallent drain as you have cited is itself evidence that opportunity in Nepal far exceeds that of Darj.
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john_s Posted on 12-14-04 1:08 AM Reply
alekrishna bro ,I think I have realli typped somthin which I shouldnt have but from my side I think I was just particepating on a debate, and the way MM bro has sent his response, I think mine was perfect reply for that one.
Cause he has questioned what has india done for darjeeling ?
& mine one is what have we done for india
Atleast I am proude that my dad served for indian army and I have the right to say that India is mine and I love india
Cause the question is never what has india or nepal done for us ?
It should be always what have we done for india or nepal ?
Jatii pani saheed bhayeka theya desh ko lagi tini haru le kahile pani India le ya nepal le K garyoo hamroo lage bhanera bhanenan....
Uniharu le afnoo jyaaan deye ani desh ma shanti leaye.....
(its always Give and take )
So I guess I have the right to say "JAI HIND" with pride
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john_s Posted on 12-14-04 1:21 AM Reply
orry hai bro KaleKrishna if I have said somthin wrong. lOVE & Peace \/.
I am nepali and I love nepal
Proude to be an indian , and I can die 4 my pride....
.............Jai bharat!!
